granted it's not the zippiest zero P out there but damned if it aint quicker than I ought to be flying. This size canopy has already knocked me into the dirt a few times with a torn ligament and a healthy respect for it's speed.... (round about a 25-35 mph hout parachute... so yup I'm pushing the performance envelope (personally) and I hope to do it on the regular and not get my ass handed to me by it.... surfing, no problem you fall off a wave, you get worked.... fall off my parachute, I get broken up possibly worse. I'm hiping to do round about 12-15000 skydives so the goal is to push the envelope and fly that bitch. student rigs no more!!!! viva la cafe late!!!!